Actually it’s also rape if the victim cannot give consent at the time :/
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Urazz
True in the technical way and in the real world but this isn’t against his wishes and we all know it. Hell, I think he would rather take part in a threesome asleep instead of just missing out on it with what we know of it.
You also gotta factor in that Patience is under the effect of Thane’s lust spell again so it’s pretty much the same situation as last time except the male guard is unconscious. I’d rate this as more morally gray than anything else.
Lurker
Please re-read the post you replied to. All of it.
TheAnon
In a comedy comic, probably not. In real life, you’d be surprised. The big reason why rape is do damaging and lasts with the user is the feeling of helplessness and that they had control taken from them. Even if it’s something they might have wanted in the first place, the fact is he was used as a ‘toy’ to someone else’s pleasure and that is dehumanizing.
Nggehhh~! >_< Okay, I wasn't too happy about what happened when Patience was mind-whammied by Thane's presence and her male colleague was so blasé about her distress, but this isn't right, either!
He’ll get over it. It’s not rape when the guy would’ve wanted to sleep with both of them anyways. I’m thinking the male guard will just be more upset that he wasn’t awake for the fun. I get the impression that he’s pretty crazy for Patience but is an idiotic horndog and terrible at wooing women.
In the aftermath, I think Patience might feel guilty and may actually decide to give the male guard a chance after he easily forgives her. He seems pretty forgiving towards her. I get the impression he’s been pursuing her for awhile now and if he hasn’t run away after her crazy mood swings from the first Thane incident, then he’ll stick around I think.
Of course it is (unlike their previous tryst, in which they were both innocent). But honestly, I don’t think he’ll mind when (if?) he finds out about it.
Say, that could be pretty funny, if she feels really conflicted about it later, doesn’t tell him what happened, and starts giving him 80-decibel mixed signals…
Urazz
Actually, it’s the same as last time as well with the exception that the male guard is unconscious for it. Patience is under the effects of Thane’s lust spell again.
If anything this is just as morally gray as it was the first time Patience and the male guard slept together. The only difference is that if anyone gets the blame this time, it’ll be Patience while last time people were more siding with Patience.
This ‘threesome’ looks horribly unbalanced to me. It’s like an ogress (Nadia) having wild sex with a pixie (Patience) and a man (the stupid guard).
Not to mention that in the last panel, it looks (to me) like Patience is stuck ‘doing all the work’, the male guard is being used like a sex toy, and Nadia is just being pleasured.
Well, that’s pretty much the only way it can go really. Nadia is a lesbian and Patience was the one that needed the guy to actually get going. The male guard is unconscious so it’s not like he can participate other than being a living sex toy.
Oh for heaven’s sake, why shouldn’t people of different sizes get it on? And we’re seeing a couple of seconds out of a much longer session; in a sex comedy cartoon — as in life — there’s absolutely nothing wrong with one person “doing all the work” sometimes.
And yes. Technically this is rape. Before when patience was being affected by thane, he didn’t know about thanes curse. So on his end, he didn’t KNOW he was raping her in any way. He thought she suddenly lost herself in passion/lust for him and just went with it. he had NO way of knowing he was doing anything immoral.
So in that first instance, he was just as much a victim. Not violated the same way that patience was, but still a victim.
But yea, I really think his only protest will be that he was passed out the whole time.
Always amazing when opinions swing from one extreme to the other. First about it being rape before, but not now. Sure, he might on some level still be willing to participate, but after the severe beating he took and the threats received since then, I imagine in non-magicially altered situations he might be highly reluctant to engage in sex with Patience, as it might prove bad for his health again.
One *could* argue that that’s just the ale-stupor talking…but I’m with you – I’d think even Tool’s subconscious has SOME idea of what’s going on and realizes (and ENJOYS) what’s being done to Tool’s body. ^_^
Not necessarily. Different strokes for different folks, and some people just can’t get geared up when sexually approached by someone of the same gender.
People, let’s remember that this is a sex comedy cartoon, not a realistic drama. There are rules, and one of the rules is that the rape of a man by one or more women is considered funny, even if he’s awake and screaming. Remember when This-Is-How-My-People-Do-It Baby was working Thane over in a non-consensual S&M scene? Hilarious and sexy! Remember the many, many public humiliations of Princess Heather? Hilarious and sexy! So can we all just relax enjoy the good clean ribaldry?
Exactly! I don’t know why some people get this wound up over stuff like this in a comedic comic where the situations aren’t meant to be taken seriously.
I understand where they’re coming from. In real life, it is an extremely serious matter, regardless of gender or political/religious affiliation. No means no. I, for one, would not trivialize this kind of tragedy
At the same time, there is a broad gap between fantasizing and acting on fantasies. It’s the same gap as between playing a violent video game, and picking up a semi-automatic rifle and shooting down people in a school. Having fantasies of any kind, contrary to popular belief, is not sick; it’s healthy. We all have fantasies, although many refuse to acknowledge them or just plain repress them. That’s not healthy.
It’s my discreet hope that this comic about sexual fantasies will do its modest job and reach out to people who share these fantasies. And that it’ll tell them, “Hey, I have these fantasies too. You’re not abnormal. You’re not a freak.”
Just my take on it. Your opinion may differ and may be just as valid.
And this situation is probably one of the top male sexual fantasies (a Threesome with two hot Lipstick Lesbians ^_^), and the guy in this situation doesn’t seem to mind.
Now in real life I would personally be very wary if two hot chicks came up to me and asked for a threesome (even if I am incredibly Hot Sexy myself 9_9); they are probably thieves (or Serial Killers or something).
And if one of them were as buff as the one in this situation, I would be questioning if she were genetically female 0_0
Urazz
Yeah, it would be the same with me as well. It’s one thing to fantasize about something like that happening, but it’s another to have it happen in real life. If two hot girls came up to me wanting a threesome with me, I’d be wary as well thinking they were gonna rob me or it’s gonna turn out to be some twisted joke.
#1 Thane Fan
Don’t worry about it Jaycee you are doing a great job. People seem to forget one thing, you cannot rape the willing.
Fereshte
While many of us “get” that this is a comic and that it’s suppose to be seen at “funny” and “fantasy,” my issue with depicting rape of a sleeping victim is that it is meant to be “funny” and “fantasy.” Unlike female rape victims, male rape is often made a joke, and there is this idea that if a man is raped by a woman then “of course he wanted it” or “free sex” or “he would have been willing had he been awake.” Male rape victims are rarely taken seriously in the real world for the very reason that we’re suppose to take this lightly. Essentially, this perpetuates the inability for male rape victims to be taken seriously and makes men less likely to come forward and report rape.
To put it in perspective, reverse the roles. How horrified would we be (in a fantasy sex comic or not), if the unconscious person was a woman being mounted by two men. If we cringe at the thought, then why should we find it funny if the victim is male?
I don’t mean to come down like a kill joy, this just happens to be one of my areas of study, and as someone who knows male rape victims, I find this aspect of our culture to be both baffling and frustrating.
Well, I hate to say it, but just welcome to the illogical double standard of the human race (or at least males in the U.S. ^_^)
Its kind of like I believe many men feel about the real-life situation where a hot blond teacher was having sex with one of her underage students (can’t recall the names just now).
Its a double standard, but among the men that I know they didn’t feel to bad for the student, although they acknowledged that it wasn’t right, and if the situation were reversed (a hot male teacher involved with an underage girl) we would all want to bury the teacher beneath the jail.
Again, double standard, but in general men are more protective of the ‘fairer sex’ in such situations.
The fact that this is also in a comic intentionally ment to be funny only serves to lessen the ‘rape’ aspect of the situation.
…………………. okay.
1. Comic is great.
2. Seriously mixed feelings about this – but can see the joke/social expectations in regards to the Male guard,.. But Patience needs to be more careful before she gets knocked up by a man she can barely stand.
Yeah, sorry ’bout that. Wondollar gave me an updated version, after realizing that the guard was missing his cast (which, to be frank, I hadn’t even noticed myself). So things were a little messy while I was doing the switcharoo. 🙂
I can read the comics without thinking much of it. Really I’m so into this I don’t even notice the nude ads of someone getting banged, that’s either very impressive or I’m screwed up.
I love reading the comments in this as much as I enjoy reading the comics. The same thing happens as before with only a slight differences of there being Nadia present and the guard with no name unconscious/drunk.
The very reasons people said that the last time is bad is being excused because he’s a guy and more than likely would have enjoyed it.
48 thoughts on “#101: Some Threesome!”
Templar
LOL! Look at the smile on his face!
da Doctah
Looks like Patience is well on the road to being able to forgive the other guard for their last escapade….
TheAnon
I hope so, considering she just raped him…
Lurker
It is only rape when it is against the wishes of the victim.
While technically the guard is in no position to give informed consent, he isn’t going to hold it against the girls.
Cheredarenee
Actually it’s also rape if the victim cannot give consent at the time :/
Urazz
True in the technical way and in the real world but this isn’t against his wishes and we all know it. Hell, I think he would rather take part in a threesome asleep instead of just missing out on it with what we know of it.
You also gotta factor in that Patience is under the effect of Thane’s lust spell again so it’s pretty much the same situation as last time except the male guard is unconscious. I’d rate this as more morally gray than anything else.
Lurker
Please re-read the post you replied to. All of it.
TheAnon
In a comedy comic, probably not. In real life, you’d be surprised. The big reason why rape is do damaging and lasts with the user is the feeling of helplessness and that they had control taken from them. Even if it’s something they might have wanted in the first place, the fact is he was used as a ‘toy’ to someone else’s pleasure and that is dehumanizing.
Edward Becerra
Unless, of course, the person being helpless is/was enjoying the helplessness.
My Tasha used to get customers like that all the time.
Urazz
Or the lust effect will wear off again once Nadia and Thane leaves and she blames him again. lol
#1 Thane Fan
I hope this!
Gallstone
Nggehhh~! >_< Okay, I wasn't too happy about what happened when Patience was mind-whammied by Thane's presence and her male colleague was so blasé about her distress, but this isn't right, either!
Urazz
He’ll get over it. It’s not rape when the guy would’ve wanted to sleep with both of them anyways. I’m thinking the male guard will just be more upset that he wasn’t awake for the fun. I get the impression that he’s pretty crazy for Patience but is an idiotic horndog and terrible at wooing women.
In the aftermath, I think Patience might feel guilty and may actually decide to give the male guard a chance after he easily forgives her. He seems pretty forgiving towards her. I get the impression he’s been pursuing her for awhile now and if he hasn’t run away after her crazy mood swings from the first Thane incident, then he’ll stick around I think.
Cheredarenee
Actually it is
Bucklegrom
Of course it is (unlike their previous tryst, in which they were both innocent). But honestly, I don’t think he’ll mind when (if?) he finds out about it.
Say, that could be pretty funny, if she feels really conflicted about it later, doesn’t tell him what happened, and starts giving him 80-decibel mixed signals…
Urazz
Actually, it’s the same as last time as well with the exception that the male guard is unconscious for it. Patience is under the effects of Thane’s lust spell again.
If anything this is just as morally gray as it was the first time Patience and the male guard slept together. The only difference is that if anyone gets the blame this time, it’ll be Patience while last time people were more siding with Patience.
Sleel
So far, it’s only morally grey to you.
Rodrigo
“Woohoo! I was used!”
Gallstone
This ‘threesome’ looks horribly unbalanced to me. It’s like an ogress (Nadia) having wild sex with a pixie (Patience) and a man (the stupid guard).
Not to mention that in the last panel, it looks (to me) like Patience is stuck ‘doing all the work’, the male guard is being used like a sex toy, and Nadia is just being pleasured.
Urazz
Well, that’s pretty much the only way it can go really. Nadia is a lesbian and Patience was the one that needed the guy to actually get going. The male guard is unconscious so it’s not like he can participate other than being a living sex toy.
Gallstone
The fact that this is the only way it can ‘function’ does not make it right, though.
Bucklegrom
Oh for heaven’s sake, why shouldn’t people of different sizes get it on? And we’re seeing a couple of seconds out of a much longer session; in a sex comedy cartoon — as in life — there’s absolutely nothing wrong with one person “doing all the work” sometimes.
tirusr
This is pretty much gonna spiral out of control.
And yes. Technically this is rape. Before when patience was being affected by thane, he didn’t know about thanes curse. So on his end, he didn’t KNOW he was raping her in any way. He thought she suddenly lost herself in passion/lust for him and just went with it. he had NO way of knowing he was doing anything immoral.
So in that first instance, he was just as much a victim. Not violated the same way that patience was, but still a victim.
But yea, I really think his only protest will be that he was passed out the whole time.
Urazz
Yeah, technically it is a rape but it’s much like last time with the exception that the male guard is unconscious and Nadia is participating as well.
Remember Nadia and Patience are under Thane’s lust spell right now like Patience was last time she slept with the male guard.
I myself don’t count it as a rape because we all know he would rather participate unconscious if he can’t participate consciously.
Chris
Always amazing when opinions swing from one extreme to the other. First about it being rape before, but not now. Sure, he might on some level still be willing to participate, but after the severe beating he took and the threats received since then, I imagine in non-magicially altered situations he might be highly reluctant to engage in sex with Patience, as it might prove bad for his health again.
Jaycee
Me, I just like that he’s smiling. 🙂
–Jaycee
Jaded Empath
One *could* argue that that’s just the ale-stupor talking…but I’m with you – I’d think even Tool’s subconscious has SOME idea of what’s going on and realizes (and ENJOYS) what’s being done to Tool’s body. ^_^
Lurker
“It’s not happening” ???
Nadia’s oral skills must be atrocious if she cannot give Patience a better experience than an (inert) penis.
She needs lessons.
Gallstone
Not necessarily. Different strokes for different folks, and some people just can’t get geared up when sexually approached by someone of the same gender.
Lurker
In the BF universe?
Surely you jest!
Bucklegrom
People, let’s remember that this is a sex comedy cartoon, not a realistic drama. There are rules, and one of the rules is that the rape of a man by one or more women is considered funny, even if he’s awake and screaming. Remember when This-Is-How-My-People-Do-It Baby was working Thane over in a non-consensual S&M scene? Hilarious and sexy! Remember the many, many public humiliations of Princess Heather? Hilarious and sexy! So can we all just relax enjoy the good clean ribaldry?
Urazz
Exactly! I don’t know why some people get this wound up over stuff like this in a comedic comic where the situations aren’t meant to be taken seriously.
Jaycee
I understand where they’re coming from. In real life, it is an extremely serious matter, regardless of gender or political/religious affiliation. No means no. I, for one, would not trivialize this kind of tragedy
At the same time, there is a broad gap between fantasizing and acting on fantasies. It’s the same gap as between playing a violent video game, and picking up a semi-automatic rifle and shooting down people in a school. Having fantasies of any kind, contrary to popular belief, is not sick; it’s healthy. We all have fantasies, although many refuse to acknowledge them or just plain repress them. That’s not healthy.
It’s my discreet hope that this comic about sexual fantasies will do its modest job and reach out to people who share these fantasies. And that it’ll tell them, “Hey, I have these fantasies too. You’re not abnormal. You’re not a freak.”
Just my take on it. Your opinion may differ and may be just as valid.
–Jaycee
Chup@Cabra
And this situation is probably one of the top male sexual fantasies (a Threesome with two hot Lipstick Lesbians ^_^), and the guy in this situation doesn’t seem to mind.
Now in real life I would personally be very wary if two hot chicks came up to me and asked for a threesome (even if I am incredibly Hot Sexy myself 9_9); they are probably thieves (or Serial Killers or something).
And if one of them were as buff as the one in this situation, I would be questioning if she were genetically female 0_0
Urazz
Yeah, it would be the same with me as well. It’s one thing to fantasize about something like that happening, but it’s another to have it happen in real life. If two hot girls came up to me wanting a threesome with me, I’d be wary as well thinking they were gonna rob me or it’s gonna turn out to be some twisted joke.
#1 Thane Fan
Don’t worry about it Jaycee you are doing a great job. People seem to forget one thing, you cannot rape the willing.
Fereshte
While many of us “get” that this is a comic and that it’s suppose to be seen at “funny” and “fantasy,” my issue with depicting rape of a sleeping victim is that it is meant to be “funny” and “fantasy.” Unlike female rape victims, male rape is often made a joke, and there is this idea that if a man is raped by a woman then “of course he wanted it” or “free sex” or “he would have been willing had he been awake.” Male rape victims are rarely taken seriously in the real world for the very reason that we’re suppose to take this lightly. Essentially, this perpetuates the inability for male rape victims to be taken seriously and makes men less likely to come forward and report rape.
To put it in perspective, reverse the roles. How horrified would we be (in a fantasy sex comic or not), if the unconscious person was a woman being mounted by two men. If we cringe at the thought, then why should we find it funny if the victim is male?
I don’t mean to come down like a kill joy, this just happens to be one of my areas of study, and as someone who knows male rape victims, I find this aspect of our culture to be both baffling and frustrating.
Chup@Cabra
Well, I hate to say it, but just welcome to the illogical double standard of the human race (or at least males in the U.S. ^_^)
Its kind of like I believe many men feel about the real-life situation where a hot blond teacher was having sex with one of her underage students (can’t recall the names just now).
Its a double standard, but among the men that I know they didn’t feel to bad for the student, although they acknowledged that it wasn’t right, and if the situation were reversed (a hot male teacher involved with an underage girl) we would all want to bury the teacher beneath the jail.
Again, double standard, but in general men are more protective of the ‘fairer sex’ in such situations.
The fact that this is also in a comic intentionally ment to be funny only serves to lessen the ‘rape’ aspect of the situation.
Darnel
…………………. okay.
1. Comic is great.
2. Seriously mixed feelings about this – but can see the joke/social expectations in regards to the Male guard,.. But Patience needs to be more careful before she gets knocked up by a man she can barely stand.
Kyle Voltti
I think she can stand him a bit more then she lets on she just doesn’t want to admit it.
Da_ninja
This gave me a derection.
bbo
Didn’t the guard have a broken arm before?
#1 Thane Fan
I am sure he will again once Thane’s aura wears off on Patience again.
Black
I just lost it. 8D
S
Uh… The image, right now, is broken. What happened to it? =\
S
Nevermind. It’s back!
Jaycee
Yeah, sorry ’bout that. Wondollar gave me an updated version, after realizing that the guard was missing his cast (which, to be frank, I hadn’t even noticed myself). So things were a little messy while I was doing the switcharoo. 🙂
–Jaycee
Syn
I can read the comics without thinking much of it. Really I’m so into this I don’t even notice the nude ads of someone getting banged, that’s either very impressive or I’m screwed up.
I love reading the comments in this as much as I enjoy reading the comics. The same thing happens as before with only a slight differences of there being Nadia present and the guard with no name unconscious/drunk.
The very reasons people said that the last time is bad is being excused because he’s a guy and more than likely would have enjoyed it.
Love love love double standards.